Instantly does not mean it ignites at the location instantly, instantly means that once he ignited it, it burnt straight through the toads stomach @Rachin

Oh wait, it never stated that, because it isn’t.

Still not Itachi's exact words. @Namikazenaruto9 It really leads me to think if Nagato even moved behind Bee or if Bee was thrown towards Nagato. I do not believe the Giant Toads Jiraiya summons, can dodge Itachi's Amaterasu using speed, Ninja of War does. Never altered any words, just took the literal meaning of attack, if you have a problem with that then you should take it up with the author.

Oh yeah? There is a difference. Have you not read the entire manga? And Jiraiya said that he can't save Oro, not that he can't beat him. He lost. I get that Jiraiya had to make fire sealing scrolls in part 1, but since Jiraiya encountered Amaterasu already, for this fight Jiraiya should have them prepped. He dodged sasuske's focus more so than the flame itself. Even then big ball rasengan canoically couldnt break through rib cage susanoo, so he surely isnt breaching armored susanoo with that. Here is manga references to Itachi closing his eye and bleeding for Amaterasu (which for all intensive purposes is a charge up), ch's 389, 340 and 550. Even though your accusations against me turned out to be bs. If he manages to push and disorient Itachi's Susanoo, it will put a huge strain on Itachi's body and stamina.

All susanoos are the same in durbalility. Itachi doesn't need massive chakra to win, he never did need it he never will. Haku could of been the fastest Shinobi in Naruto history but we'll never know because he was too soft and killed himself when he was holding himself back earlier on. Stamina isn't the only determining factor of a battle, because by that logic itachi is the weakest character in naruto.

many of you are comparing itachi(without sickness) to an old jiraya who was quite past his prime also many of you are forgetting about the backlash as result of using techniques associated with mangekyo sharingan (such as how sasuke was coughing blood and in tremendous pain while using Susanoo,amaterasu) whereas jiraya never showed such backlash in anime or manga.if you compare a prime jiraya with prime itachi perhaps the situation might be totally different. You're welcome. I can easily say it's not Canon cause its anime only which is an argument I believe I seen you say in threads, but i'll just accept this. What are these toads he will be summoning? Its pointless to continue this debate. It's not exaggeration it was what was stated as well as the description of the technique. Therefore its safe to assume he wouldn't and feel his abilities are sufficient which would be a huge mistake. QuakingStar wrote: Jiraiya would most likely put his intel on Itachi to good use and put down some smoke bombs and maybe even use some flash bangs. The argument the battle is always long and drawn out between two powerful opponents is false. But that takes space and prep so unlikely. Itachi is known for Genjutsu usage but mostly visual, so Jiraiya would try to avoid eye contact however because Itachi has shown to not need eye contact on multiple Genjutsu techniques, this method would fail. When jiraiya got surprise attacked by pain, where was the danger sensing then? But yeah Jiraiya would win this fight in the end. That was established in the naruto vs pain fight too. Itachi used genjutsu on Kakashi's shadow clone back at the start of Part 2, and his real body didn't receive any of it's effects. Lol so Itachi has to close his right eye before he uses Amaterasu for a charge up, makes sense, if that's really the charge up then that's the smallest charge up ever, because the ninja can blink and technically close his eye LOL. He made an anbu's battle experience kakashi extremely moot and then proceeded to down kakashi in what seemed like maybe a 5 to ten minute battle.


I just proved your point is wrong about Jiraiya not being able to use jutsu while his hands are clasped, now you claim that the best that he can do is a barrier? So Jiraiya tends to open with a summon and itachi tends to open with genjutsu. I referenced Gamaken's jumping ability and the fact that he avoided the focus of the rinnegan, part 2 ep 131. It shows him opening a blank scroll, writes the formula, performs multiple hand signs, then seals Amaterasu, so him protecting the giant toads from Amaterasu does not seem likely with your previous argument or himself for that matter. You seem to be the one denying facts, since you forgot these points I have mentioned.

At best it was 3 and I'm being generous. But the question is, can the Totsuka Blade be parried by a normal blade? Even Kakuza had to carry him when the edo tensei's were mobilizing. The rinnegan isnt the byakugan it cant see through smoke. I think not." You also stated that the technique Jiraiya used to reverse summon the 10 dogs is not on his page, therefore he didn't use it. I don't even think itachi has to do the susanoo to win also jiraiya can bide his time inside a toad's mouth to activate SM without even fighting itachi at all from the very beginning.all itachi can do is keep wasting his chakra in searching him out. I get you like Itachi, but you need to give him his exact true credit and nothing more. He basically had easy pickings for times he's used Genjutsu: Sharingan. Ravenlot 27 wrote: All of this leads me to believe Jiraiya would win this fight. Again you make it seem as if eye contact is always 100% going to happen despite distance. I do not really understand how some of your comparisons really fit into the points you have made, such as using Sasuke's blaze release as a feat for Itachi and using Haku's speed as a comparison for the toads speed.

Darth Itachi wrote: Kakashi knows that he can battle itachi's genjustu using his own sharing an because the sharingan gives a big advantage in countering other sharingan genjustu. Destroying a mountain with a single blow is definitely powerful enough to do some sort of damage to a Susanoo. Now if you mean Charge Up as in gather Chakra then closing his eye isn't a Charge Up.

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